petewoods ([info]petewoods) wrote,
@ 2006-08-22 17:57:00
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Part 3- The Big One
Okay, today is the final step- the digital world!

This post is 15 screenshots at 1680X1050. Not for the faint of heart (or tiny of monitor). It is also the nitty gritty of getting things ready for DC's fabulous and very attractive production department. What I'm trying to say is that it's going to be big and boring for some. The carrot on the stick is that the final colored version the Brad did appears at the end of the post...



The first thing I do is scan obviously. i scan at 400 dpi at full size which translates into 600 dpi print size which is how DC wants things. I don't have a fancy-schmancy $1200 large format scanner, so I have to do it it halves...



Then I enlarge the top half to 16" tall with Canvas size...



then paste them together...



and line things up...





Then I use the handy dandy template DC provided me (ya hear that Marvel? Templates are handy- hint, hint)...



And I paste my assembled image into it--



Then I select my black areas and fill them on a separate layer. I expand the selection by 3 pixels so I don't get any weird white edges---




This page needed a starry background. I have an image of space I converted to a bitmap that I use for stars. Here I paste it in---



and then trim the non starry areas using the same process I used selecting blacks



I then adjust the levels on the line art layer. If I don't do this a lot of detail is lost in the conversion to bitmap



Then I convert to bitmap using 50% threshold



And then I save as a tiff.



And here's the final image



Finally I transfer it to DC's ftp server where the send it to the mega-talented Brad Anderson for coloring.




That's it!

Here's the whole process from start to finish--



Hope that answers some burning questions!



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[info]swifty0682
2006-08-23 01:27 am UTC (link)
That was really informative, thanks for the peek behind-the-scenes. You do great work!

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-23 05:34 am UTC (link)
Thank YOU!

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sweet.
[info]theholymoose
2006-08-23 04:08 am UTC (link)
Pete this is really cool of you to do! I am a current student at PNCA studying illustration because I would like to get into the comics buisness someday. However, my knowledge in Photoshop is horrific, so hopefully I will learn alot this year in my photoshop digital tools class. How long did it take you to learn to be fluent in photoshop?

Not now, but in the next year or two I am hoping to apply for an internship with you guys at the studio. It would be a dream to see you guys go through the grind to put together wonderful books for comic nerds everywhere to oogle over.

Take it easy man and I hope your all doing well!

(also, I know Rebecca has been busy with the kids but does she have anything on the horizon? Her work in Sexy Chix for dark horse was way cool!)

-Matt

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Re: sweet.
[info]theholymoose
2006-08-23 05:31 am UTC (link)
Oh, and here is a link to a semi-cheap 11x 17 scanner:

http://www.nextag.com/Kodak-I250-Dockable-FLATBED-55207167/prices-html

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Re: sweet.
[info]petewoods
2006-08-23 05:41 am UTC (link)
Fluent in Photoshop- lol! I only know enough to get me through my job- the rest is all fairy magic as far as I know.

Good luck with the PNCA thing. Keep in mind that PNCA is great for teaching you how to use the tools of the trade, but pretty awful at the practical/business side of illustration. Their main goal is to turn out fine artists, not illustrators. Go into the school forearmed with that knowlege and you'll do great.

Rebecca is dabbling with a couple of things, but she's been having to deal with kids practically by herself since I've been so behind on deadlines.

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[info]dculver
2006-08-23 05:17 am UTC (link)
whoa, blacking out the gutters really made everything pop.

This is great, really useful.

So are you scanning in as greyscale then converting to bmp and then saving as tiff?

I usually scan as lineart(bmp) then convert to greyscale to fiddle with it and then save as tiff. Am I losing quality doing it that way?

Also: I picked up a mustek 11x17 scanner on ebay for like 150, it scans at 600dpi. totally worth it.

This was good stuff, you should do more!

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-23 05:32 am UTC (link)
Yeah- greyscale- bitmap- tiff

I'm certainly no scanning expert, but I find that every time I switch from greyscale to bitmap and back it degrades the line work a little bit. I've only tried scanning as lineart once and hated the results.

And now I know where to get my scanner!

Where do you live again??

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[info]dculver
2006-08-23 06:11 am UTC (link)
haha

The dog will guard the scanner with his life!


(I've always scanned lineart so I've never known another way, I will try this)

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[info]skalja
2006-08-23 11:09 am UTC (link)
That was hugely informative and very interesting - thanks for taking the time out of your vacation to put this together for us! And wow, the final result is beautiful.

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-25 05:36 am UTC (link)
Thanks! I've been meaning to do something like this for a while, but could never find the time.

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[info]kevenn
2006-08-23 01:41 pm UTC (link)
Simply fascinating. I really need to learn Photoshop. I'm such a computer-phobe.

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-25 05:37 am UTC (link)
Once you learn what a great tool it can be you'll wonder how you ever lived without it.

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[info]spanambula
2006-08-23 05:12 pm UTC (link)
freaking awesome. Thanks for posting all of this.

I thought Matt Clark had told me that Mercury Studios got an 11x17 scanner so he could stop going to Kinko's. *cleans ears* Huh.

I just got my hands on the "DC guide to Coloring and Lettering", which I thought had a fairly useful guide to scanning your artwork. Was wondering if you'd seen/ read it at all (Or maybe you guys get the "extra special scanning instructions" from DC?) :D

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-25 05:39 am UTC (link)
Yeah- I just haven't had the time to get into the studio.

I haven't seen the DC guide. Everything I learned about scanning I learned by doing. All DC gave me wad a template.

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[info]quirkybird
2006-08-24 04:35 am UTC (link)
That is super-neat to see all in one place! I've seen your process first-hand, but I always enjoy a full process spread.

Guh, I need to replace my camera's battery so I can get reference photos again. You, Steve, and Jenn make it look like SUCH a good idea.

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-25 05:43 am UTC (link)
Steve was the last to fall, bwa-ha-ha!

Reference photos are handy, but they can easily become a crutch- as you can see here. In Superman I became dependant on them by necessity, but I'm trying to tone it down now that the deadlines aren't so tight...

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[info]mercurystudio
2006-09-03 03:23 am UTC (link)
It's true. I've fallen and (as Pete warns) I can't get up.

This post is a HUGELY valuable resource Pete. Is it okay if I link to it for the studio blog?

-S

P.s See you guys at the Hahn BBQ?


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[info]petewoods
2006-09-03 03:44 am UTC (link)
Link away Stevie-poo.

And rebecca is knocked out with a fever, so I don't think we can make it...

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[info]thechrishaley
2006-08-24 06:19 pm UTC (link)
Thanks so much for this look at how you work.
It's always helpful and interesting to see how different artists approach things.
If I can ask a quick question, how do you select your blacks? Lasso? Magic wand? I'm curious.

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-25 05:47 am UTC (link)
Anything I can do to help!

I use the magic wand- it's far quicker. Shift-clicking lets me select multiple areas at once and then I expand the selection by 3 pixels before I fill on a separate layer.

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[info]aimsatellite
2006-08-25 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Pete,

I was aware that you were under the gun on a bit of this series, but cranking out pages this good in 3 hours? damn.

Thanks for the peek into your process.

I see that you laid out the perspective according to the photograph, but it seems like it would be rather time consuming to actually do all those lines in photoshop, do you have some sort of template that you move around and distort to get the perspective grid how you want it?

just curious,

-Kevin

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[info]petewoods
2006-08-25 09:47 pm UTC (link)
Doing the lines in Photoshop only take a few seconds, for me a template would be far more time consuming. I just use the line tool. Shift-clicking when I create the line adds it to the same layer as the previous line- that way I can zoom out and have all the lines originate from the same point like so---


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[info]aimsatellite
2006-08-27 04:25 am UTC (link)
ah, okay, that makes sense.

again, thanks for being so open with how you work, it's neat to 'see inside' your head and get a sense as to how you put things together.

-Kevin

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Fotos
(Anonymous)
2006-09-02 06:05 pm UTC (link)
Hey Pete,

I love your art and to see how you are making a page is great! Now I wonder if you always make fotos first? I think this takes much time, or not? Isn't it faster to do thumbnails and blow them up to draw 'over'?

Best,

Chris

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Re: Fotos
[info]petewoods
2006-09-03 03:46 am UTC (link)
When you're trying to make things look natural nothing caputers the subtle gesture like a photo. And for me this process is actuallt much faster. that said I'm going to be using less photos in the future...

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DPI?
(Anonymous)
2006-09-06 03:43 am UTC (link)
Hi Pete-
Why do you scan your inks in grayscale ? I scan mine in at 600 DPI bitmap as it saves file space, but more importantly, drops out stray pencil marks. I'll temoryarily convert to greyscale to do my black fills and patterns, then back to bitmap, then drop it down to 400 DPI for the DC template. BTW, I am finally going to get to use that photoshop zip-a-tone technique you showed me a few years ago.

Best to you and the family!
David
www.HahnDynasty.com

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Re: DPI?
[info]petewoods
2006-09-06 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Mostly habit- I've got a process and I'm sticking to it. File size isn't a big deal to me- it all gets bitmapped in the end. It's just a lot easier to me to have everything in grayscale as I can make small corrections, do overlays and special effects, fill blacks, and do patches. It also give me more control over line strenght as I can fiddle with levels. Since I'm using my small scanner it's also easier to paste the two halves together. It's just amazing, really.

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